Could you start a fresh campaign and see if it still works? I presume you would want to confed allarielle and won't delare war on her. Do you have a timestamp for the Mazdamundi alliance part, I don't remember that bit. Other member species variously resembled insectoid, avian or reptilian creatures. Yes, good thinking! Features Fullscreen sharing Embed Statistics Article stories Visual Stories SEO. Thanks by the way this is really good info. However I do have some questions. Note 2: There’s currently a bug where legendary lords you capture using Warden’s Cage don’t give you their unique traits as this doesn’t count as “defeating” them in battle. "I will divide you by zero." If you pick someone with a gate it is either ellyrion or tiranoc. For people wondering this is actually true, if you lend money from a bank it appears out of nowhere and when you pay it back it gets deleted. Legend has helped me so much, if a little bump from you would help HIM even a tiny bit, I'd be really grateful. Close. Did they fix it?? Some call it the Dominium Mundi, the universal monarchy, the empire of east and west reunited, the empire of the three Romes, the last empire, the holy roman empire, the second kingdom, the eurasian empire, the Romanov autocracy, united christendom, the Slavic imperium, the empire of the white tsar, the … @MercytheMad I actually got it to work, but thanks for getting back to me. If you can't get it, just build a few more stacks. The quesiton is do you need more? who you gonna call? No you can't see it anywhere in the UI I don't think, but at the start of the turn - at first you will have your normal income, then half a second later you will see the indoctrinate income load in. I destroyed orcs on Ulthuan, and declared on Saphery. by the way if you are interested. Also if you let them recruit a second army.Also the faction leader is immortal, so Execute them the first time and you have 5 turns before they can come back (so they have t recruit others).also, you can keep 2 lords captured in your prison to force them to recruit different ones. Sure children are easy to indoctrinate but adults have already been proven. I was just having a dumb moment ����. @MercytheMad Yeah park an army to do nothing doesn't really matter when you can almost fill the entire map with armies :D. Only almost since I feel the supply lines, which is also exponential, will at some point require more money than an int32 can store and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't use int64 for your treasury. @Mihail Dechev No I don't think you are understanding this. I don���t kno w if this would work but theoretically couldn���t you force them to confer and then give you most of the gold back (if they liked you enough). amazing exploit! @thingy mbob Hard to say, I imagine its a bit harder then that given the AI treasury is likely to be calculated at a different time then the players. The main attraction of 40k is the miniatures, but there are also many video games, board games, books, ect. Try. MercytheMad my plan was to sack / raze skaven (6 settlements) to get caledor and abandon start so Capital is moved to ulthuan for trade. Just take a moment to appreciate this :). But there are so many stepping stones in the chain of actions that require both genius and a great deal of time and effort. I WAS worried maybe the thumbnail was too subtle :P Legend already did a stream on this strat. Should work on any faction. Awesome job! This is some real quality blue cheese with white truffles. You can use this method for huge bribes, but even more importantly you can use this method to support 10 stacks if you want and have massive Faction strength ranking.I haven't tested it but if Tyrion is in defeated state (wounded), relations are 80+ and you have 4+ stacks, I would be very surprised if you didn't get a confederation. The Spiffing Brit Chose the Wrong Faction to Cheese Unlimited Gold. with backspace the enemies literally can't move at all. Dark elfes won't gimme any money back :(, @MercytheMad Yea thx for tip , this was the problem! If you can finish off on a gate then it's nice, but the gate wont summon lords for you to indoctrinate so you want to fight a few battles elsewhere first to get as many indoctrinations as possible.Bear in mind, upkeep cost is irrelevant when you have infinite money though, so having an extra army parked there is no big deal. @MercytheMad U did military alliance while I did military access. @General Harness if you are trying to break the game every extra lord would make it exponentially faster. [���怨듦��] ��ㅽ�뱀�� '��몃’���援�������移�' 誘몃━蹂닿린 ���寃� 怨듦��~! Credit to *Thingy mbob* for the amazing Infinite Money indoctrinate exploit. @baudsp and if banks wouldnt create new money, why would there be an inflation? Haha yeah the Brit would love this one! @General Harness, Sort of, except it grows exponentially. This one is also pretty disgusting though :P. This isn't cheating, it's playing on an equal level with the AI, if they can have infinite money, so can you. He���s my next campaign ����. Among Us SQUAD FACE REVEAL! All his work (except for recording and editing the video), got enough money there to force the entire map into a military alliance with you lol. Thingymbob said that in his tests they don't recruit new lords for you to indoctrinate if they only own a gate, BUT you could get your 5 Indoctrinated lords whilst they have 2 settlements, THEN occupy their other settlement and just leave the gate. Copyright © 2020 Flash-Player Watch Free Online Videos, Share with Friends. first the early imrik / tyrion confed , and now this ? I mean, you really have to mooch rich factions and balance the other elves from killing you or your donor. Hi Mihail, thats correct you only get the 5% (for each indoctrinated lord) NOT the whole amount, but that 5% becomes more than the starting total very fast and it gets faster and faster. Also you start in the badlands as well which is volatile place as a whole. I know, so crazy! The whole mechanic is just super powerful. ���@Chicken Tendies Yes that's what I did for the greenskins, and grom did confed them, need to test it on a elf lord. Tariff! Although starting a few turns later (that it would take to get to Allarielle or Ellyrion) will cost you millions of gold (or a few turns) . However however, if they are confederated by Grom, will they stay indoctrinated or they got wiped off? Is this exploit only working on ME? :D Yes, as you may have guessed, I'm a beginner at the game, but I've been reading the game fluff (background stories etc.) Marcia's favourite threat. Once the bubble gets to big and it overflows or atleast reset the number to 0, loosing all your progress. Would be cool if he did make a video. @KonKonKing I think Strength Ranking is the most important factor but you need at least around 80 relation usually as well. Full disclosure, Thingy mbob found this one and handed it to me gift-wrapped. @Ali Oh wow, that's interesting. Cheers! Brilliant! I'm not sure if I'm doing it right? Credit to LegendofTotalWar for sharing the 'gifting while at still at war' exploit/bug which makes this possible and testing the game till it broke from too much money. Well, here goes the current global financial system as a whole, and FRS - US govt relations in particular. Amazing find, Mercy. it was all Thingy mbob's idea, but I helped a bit. The backspace exploit removes the AI players from the game and makes all AI completely passive and just wait for you to kill them. @MercytheMad started a fresh campaign and couldn't offer military alliance to anyone if I'm at war with them. I've only been able to indoctrinate 3 lords every time I've attempted this. You got started a bit slow by the sounds of it but give it another 20 turns or something and you will be making millions. Awesome work by thingy mbob! So your saying if I wipe out their army and indoctrinate (not kill) the lord, they will recruit a new army with that same Lord again - however if I fight a field battle and Indoctrinate the lord but allow the army to retreat and not follow up....then they recruit a different Lord (not the indroctinated one) next turn?Is this 100% works every time? 2 nd Degree, ... Warhammer 40,000 Homebrew Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. indoctrinate our agents in this respect, for it is this very individuality, strength of mind and belief, and sense of personal responsibility which enables them to perform the dire tasks we ask of them. Here's What Happened, Dream fell after George rejected his Valentine's proposal (stream highlights). Brilliant. No, there can only be 1 buff going at a given time. Not vey helpful for Eltharion though as invasion comes too late. At turn 64 200k + per a turn. Indoctrinate: Releases the captured character back to their faction. Haha, the man himself! How do you give them money? In 20 turns you would be at 15k gold per turn. Maybe the Lord you indoctrinated got killed? You can do something similar with the chaos invasion. Then retake imriks start / dragon isles and hopefully confed other HE... capital always moves back if you take original capital again �������삽�������, @Briggsy I actually want to have a look at Imrik sometime soon. Even in a game like this where virtual money coming out of nowhere doesn't seem like such a big problem it can probably crash the game. Not the income frrom indoctrinate does NOT show up anythere in your Economy tab...at the start of the turn your normal income will pop up (wat you would expect form the economy tab) and then the indoctrinate money will load half a second later. Just watch LegendofTotalWar's stream(or just skip form end turn to end turn once he gets it started) and you will see how the exponential growth works. Video size:  1280 X 720853 X 480640 X 360, For anyone wondering about the bump in the graph, I think that's just down to a typo or something. Wouldn't this be even better if you left one of the gates as their last settlement? Hi Scott, no they haven't fixed it. @MercytheMad you don't need to. ... and indoctrinate them until late at night before returning to the bedroom to rest. Issuu company logo. Indoctrinate even just 1 or 2 lords and you'll be getting 100's of thousands a turn. In my campaign i'm trying to do this on scourge of khaine since theres no other high elves left than Tyrion/ alith anar and i'm trying to get them conderation. In 4 turns you get more than your money back. Marcia Hrodberht was a Confessor operating in the late 41st millenium and one of those Ecclesiarchs who have had the honour (and misfortune) of serving alongside the Order of the Sacred Grove. Thrall definition is - a state of servitude or submission —usually used with in. @TheLonelyOnee the thing with getting saphery is to get the interest rolling in sooner than later. Makes sense kind of. So offer peace, offer them the money, offer military access, then cancel the PEACE request. You can't do diplomacy with Chaos though can you? Has this been patched? I'm not 100% sure on that, I was told you lose the indoctrinate if they get confederated by another faction but I have not confirmed it myself.If YOU confederate the indoctrinated faction (ie another high elf race) apparently you DO keep the indoctrinate income though. That's right. That's right. The Cabal is a collection of disparate alien species not readily identifiable to Imperial authorities. Awsome exploit, but do this work only on high elves? Enjoy it while it lasts, CA will patch it now that it's public, @Balut3 The proper fix would be to make Indoctrinate reduce the treasury of the AI like you would expect from the description, that way we can use the system to damage their faction. wouldn't it be easier with a faction controlling only a gate because you wouldn't have to park an army to do nothing? Whe… Hmm, I'm not sure in this, you may need to get them to have already recruited them before you start. Thanks so much for this tip!Please hit me up on a livestream so I can read this tip out and award you your SCIENCE BADGE*! @thingy mbob may have a better answer for you, he has played around with this a lot more than me. Cheers! As seen on The Spiffing Brit INFINITE MONEY. Where are you? Also can you get a 6th if you hold the fifth in your dungeon and indoctrinat both at the same time? This exploit basically removes the economy aspect of the game. Thingymbob is a genius. Can't wait to see all the crazy things that can be done with this exploit. 'Totally Balance game' as Spiffing Brit would say :P, It's called a lot of things...cheating, exlploiting, "high-elf-economy-bullsh!t" etc..... :P, exponential curves! @MercytheMad I got 7 lords from the greenskins on ulthwan and did not see any of the lords I had already captured. Just make sure other factions wont attack and occupy that gate. Ah, so you can keep them in there indefinately I assume while executing the rest that enters. Hmmm, perhaps. @Chicken Tendies I agree, it is not needed. Only way it works. I declared war on Ellyrion, indoctrinated 5 lords and have their final settlement under lockdown (but I think I indoctrinated the faction leader first, so maybe this is the problem?). 100 turns for 60k income from a single settlement is about the same as the high elves income cheese that's still in the game. Too many potential classes, prcs, skills and feats, too many weapons, too much conversion work using the existing system. Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Shadow and Pain Review – Summary Packed with absolutely everything you need to dive head-first into the Mortal Realms, the Shadow and Pain box set is, without doubt, one of the best Age of Sigmar-related releases from 2020. (it gets faster at a faster rate) . damn ok i guess im sold on playing eltharion. The Cicatrix Maledictum ripped from the Eye of Terror in the galactic northwest to the Hadex Anomalyin the southeast. Thingymbob said that in his tests they don't recuirt nerw lords for you to indoctrinate if they only own a gate, BUT you could get your 5 Indoctrinated lords whilst they have 2 settlements, THEN occupy their other settlement and just leave the gate. Happens right at the very first moment of each turn. @thingy mbob Hello, nice find but does it work if you Confed the lords you have indoctrinated as they now below to your factions? Though there are many examples in game (or in the Codex, at least) of the Reapers instantly countering seemingly unpredictable military strategies (Such as the battle for Palaven, or indirectly through Reaper-upgraded Geth against the Quarians). They are known to include mechanical life-forms as well as those that are energy-based and non-corporeal. @thingy mbob Nvm on the first just realized it only works while you are at war so if you Confed you are now at peace. @Abdul Aziz Amod Currently experiencing the same problem. Haha, yeah it's not very balanced, that's for sure. Is this a bug? Steal 5% of the character’s faction’s gold each turn. (where he has already built it up to +400,000 per turn) should save you a heap of time getting it rolling. few seem to understand, Yeah, I was thinking of Covid exponential curves as I was trying to explain it in the video :P, Ngl I was expecting legend's cringy face in the thumbnail, haha. Although starting a few turns later (that it would take to get to Allarielle or Ellyrion) will cost you millions of gold (or a few turns) . @MercytheMad Something I noticed is that if you do not wipe a army the AI seems to replace it with a new lord, got 8 off the greenskins on ulthwan before the other elves got armys near the settlement. @General Harness ive found that since the faction leader of minor factions is immortal you can indoctrinate and wound them to get 6 lords. i love that...eltharion the money vampire.... can i kill any indoctrinated lords like when i see them again? So in other words 4 turns and you get all your money back. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. that are all connected in the 40k universe. I mean literally...literally infinite money. 1 Overview 2 History 2.1 Pre-Corruption 2.2 Corruption 2.3 Post-Corruption 2.4 The Assault on Peruna 3 Relics 3.1 Scourge of Dorn 3.2 The Silver Tongue 3.3 The 100 Diamonds 3.4 Tooth of Malice 3.5 The Note of Magnus 3.6 PLASMA GUN 4 Inner Factions 4.1 The Hook 4.2 Shard 4.3 The Worm 4.4 The Mantle 4.5 Misc 5 Characters 5.1 Markus Berriatch 5.2 Dark Apostle Harros 5.3 Master Feir'El Kastos … Thanks for the explanation, keep it up!����. This is genius, hope CA won't patch straight away I need to give it a go Asap. Last edited by funkmonster7; Oct 19, 2020 @ 5:32am #13. This subreddit is for anything and everything related to Warhammer 40k that should work. Actually this is like BANKS ... because - at least here in the EU - banks can LEND 10-times the amount of savings people gave them, so basically they are CREATING MONEY THAT DIDNT EXIST BEFORE when they write "we lent ���100.000 to Skipper and he has to pay it back". Just after washing and lying on the bed, footsteps sounded outside the door. Do what you like. It happened in two playthough for the same faction, will try it against lothern next time. Amazing, great vid, the vampire elf, hilarious! And try to help but well the size of debt is ofcourse gigantic.So yeah the whole system with our economy based on never ending gorwth is kinda bound to hit a wall, again. In 30 turns you'll be making 50k gold per turn. Compounding with 25% is ridiculous. Can you see the money you are gonna receive somewhere else in the UI ? LITERALLY Infinite. I cant offer the military alliance to Mazamundi. Yes, it takes a few more turns (though not necessarily) to get going, but I think it would be worth it in the long run. @DragonX Hellfire That's what I said? Even in the Warp it is a massive hole that swallows up daemons that cross it. @MercytheMad the easiest fix would be to make the 5% not stackable, but that would "only" slow down the whole exploit. @MercytheMad Yeah I meant only leaving them a gate AFTER indoctrinating their lords.And yeah, the AI doesn't recruit lords (and can't recruit heroes) at the gates, thus they will not spent the money :) And you get a sack city and influence farm on top of it. With 5 indoctrinated lords you would make 2k gold in 10 turns into 4.5k gold per turn. I'm I missing something? Haha now this is an exceptionally balanced mechanic, @The Spiffing Brit OF course. Anyone that knows me knows I play a simply ludicrous amount of Total War.I’m currently at the 1,000-hour mark in Total War: Warhammer 2.And that’s just the newest game. So the Hochmeisters came up with a plan to indoctrinate mages into their ranks by offering a clean slate. Settra does serve...up millions of gold per turn! :D: D I am always struggling for money....especially in the beginningThanks in advance! I am in awe of the brilliance that went into unearthing this exploit. How to use thrall in a sentence. For some reason I needed to indoctrinate few more lords, maybe previous bonuses didn't add up because I didn't build interrogation chamber. LITERALLY Infinite. While I was doing this ���entirely intended game mechanic��� Tyrion was getting passed around by the dark elves and ended up losing all but 1 settlement. haven't really got anything worked out yet, but have a couple of ideas to try. I knew you would like this one! Will check it out. Does anyone have a list yet of the different buffs you can get? I can't seem to offer a military alliance anymore. Like wtf also they don't have all the money they have recieved from there clients in stock as they make money from using it. Shouldn't matter what order you do it in. I invested around 170000k so far and it is on very hard difficulty.Edit: It's ok, I guess. Orisa isn’t the only one celebrating the Year of the Ox with a new skin. @Raven I started another fresh campaign and it seems the exploit still works even with mith military access. How do you get the AI to recruit new lords? Good job on the vid and grats on so much success! Yeah, can't wait to see all the stupid shit people manage to do with the infinite money. However, I see in the video you are receiving the whole sum (invested lets say) + the 25% or am I wrong? The chaos invasion has millions of gold already. And when they loose and the banks crash everybody looses there money and well there literally is no way for the banks to recompensate but it's an actual disaster so the state has to come in. Sadly, given that Ulthuan is mostly safe, the mechanic isn’t very useful for Eltharion the Grim outside of reducing recruitment times for high-end units. Let's face it, a d20 40k game will probably never get designed, or get designed well. All rights reserved. Steal 5% of the character’s faction’s gold each turn. while at that point its kinda pointless i think you could make it more efficient by doing this to a faction which only owns a gate settlement as you cant recruit armies from there and all the money they spend are used to make it more secure which in turn means that it also helps to keep those pesky dark elves away while you are using that same place for influence farming and to use that army somewhere where its actually useful. Hahah. It doesn't matter that much as you will struggle to spend all the cash even by turn 20. I hope so, it's pretty bullshit. About This Content Rise of The Samurai is a brand new, independent campaign for Total War: SHOGUN 2. Warhammer Armybook: The Order of Solland contains the following: 1. high Elves balling since before end of the times Son Lol. Before the onset of the conflict known as the War of Beasts, Vigilus witnessed a cataclysm so great it all but split the galaxy in half. this is why we are in lockdown. Fuck yeah Mercy! As seen on The Spiffing Brit INFINITE MONEY. I think you just have to screw around with them and try to get more indoctrinated over time, not really sure if there is a guaranteed way to make more spawn. 100% agree. Once the video is up it's public domain mate. The Bronze Guardians is a Codex-compliant, loyalist Space Marine Chapter with an unclear founding as it was created mysteriously in an effort to protect the Sanctus sector. First, I did the same thing to the Sephary but only indoctrinating one lord. ... During the first 2 visits, Swift and Emily had met, so they knew each other. i think ive found a surefire way to get 6 lords from saphery.Haerrieth is their faction ruler so she is immortal. And every time they get a new lordFor me grom confederated them turn 10 so i didnt get to do much with them. Otherwise you dont need them. I've just discoverer your channel, very impressed by the quality and you've highlighted some tasty cheese. What Happens When the Two Best Players in the World Face off on Total War Warhammer 2? Let me know if you figure anything out, Could you pls check how much you have to give tyrion for a confederation? Using adults reduces that issue a lot. Not sure if it's capitalism, but it IS classic high elf economy bullsh!ttery - with a Capital B! Don't work for me. That gives me an awesome idea thanks Briggsy! @General Harness I haven't tested the first one, as for getting the 5 lords you probably can get a 6th, but the easiest way to go about it is to fight a big faction normally (such as malekith) and swap to cheesing him when you are done with him. I think there is still a , lot of fun to be had playing the game and experimenting with things you can do with infinite money. 3. Warhammer Wizard Chapter 341. That's right. It is truly interesting though how the player managed to amass 500k to begin with. Would this be a less or more egregious exploit than the Backspace HALT! What makes this "more than mind control" rather than simple manipulation is that this can still be assisted by magic or technology. OK awesome, so I can basically just farm one army if I can keep it from running away as long as I don't attack twice i9n one turn? Hi Lars, not sure. @LegendofTotalWar this cheese. You can also try breaking the siege for a turn, sometimes the Lord will make a run for ait and they will recruit another lord. Then you can do this AND sack the gate every turn + influence farm with nobles. Need hacks for Imrik now. Doesn't gates can hire lords? So you should see it if you watch closely at the start of the turn. Best part is, you can leave them with the gate, not keep them under siege and they will be fine. I had 802 gold per turn at the start of turn 1, I still have 802 gold per turn at the start of turn 2. @MercytheMad I tried it on the Vortex Map and it didn't seem to work for me, no matter how much money I gave them, there was only my own income coming through every round. So it grows a little bit , a little bit, a little bit more, more, a lot, then HOLY F$%K! He plays as Eltharion. Total War: WARHAMMER II. Been trying to do this bug but I can't seem to get enough lords indoctrinated. Does anyone have a list yet of the different buffs you can get? exploit they fixed in the previous big update? In a few turns you are getting double your money back PER TURN, a few turns later you are getting 20K per turn, a few turns later you are getting 200K per turn etc etc, then Millions, then hundreds of millions...The income increases slowly at first then rapidly goes absolutely ballistic. Maybe that's even a better strat than beating him down to the last settlement. LITERALLY Infinite. They just keep recruiting the ones I've already indoctrinated. I can see legend of total war getting in on this. Genius! One species definitively identified as having a member in the Cabal is theEldar. I wont ruin the surprise here but if you (or anyone) want to chat, DM me on Dischord, this is my channel discord.gg/YC4zpXc or just write something @mercythemad and I will see it. A good part of the waste in creating space marines is the need to weed out people that haven't really shown any aptitude. Waited few turns for new lords, indoctrinated them and now i'm getting my moneys :). Indoctrinate then wound her and then do the normal 5 lord method. How many times have you witnessed this behaviour? Next, ellyrion and tiranoc are prone to morathi's onslaught. Honestly it would be a crime if there WASN'T a Spiffing Brit video about this cheese :) If you want to do me a huge favour, if it's not asking too much could do 2 callouts for me?1 To "thingy mbob" who first discovered the cheese2 To LegendofTotalWar's stream where he broke the game with this exploit (stack overflow at 2.14 billion gold). Hey Imrik yeah it's exponential. Another thing you can try is to Execute the faction leader (who is immortal) then you have 5 turns where they will have to recruit at least one other lord. It will be easier to stop gifting the AI money as this will be a script if peace cancelled wipe all. WAAAAGH!!! Trying to indoctrinate the Hive Mind would be like trying to slowly indoctrinate a single synapse at a time, of which the Hive Mind can overpower, or would take so long to even affect the Hive Mind it is a nonissue. Reapers are scaled to be around the same capability as warhammer ships. Credit to *Thingy mbob* for the amazing Infinite Money indoctrinate exploit. And well it kinda has to crash from time to time so yeah not good. It is really bedazzling for me :) Great job tho..:). Discussions, strategies, stories, crude cave-drawings, and more for Medieval 2, Empire, Shogun 2, Rome 2, Attila, Thrones of Britannia, Warhammer, Three Kingdoms and others. What makes this so powerful is the diplo cheese, the base income the AI gets is still significant if they have no income.

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