10,066 Posts #21 • Nov 29, 2012 (Edited) soundguy: Do make sure that when you size the belted cases that they still fit the chamber. There are several very popular cartridges in the 7mm bore size, each with its set of applications. The 7mm Rem Mag is simple to work with and produces desirable results without the idiosyncrasies found in higher performance cartridge designs. Mag. What calibers can a 30-06 be converted to? It kicks out bullets of the same weight faster than popular non-magnum calibers like the .270 Winchester or .30-06, and the 7mm Mag is great choice for hunters who want a hard-hitting, flat-shooting rifle for long range shots. The 7mm Rem mag cartridge like the 308 and 30-06is widely available. Mag load (168 Berger Classic Hunter) at 500 yards while only giving up 200 ft-lbs of energy (1700 vs… Let me know if you have any questions or requests. Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight: Recoil energy: Recoil velocity.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5: 0.2: n/a.17 Hornet (20 at 3650) 8.5: 0.6: 2.0.17 Rem. Mag. My 7mm Rem Mag has less recoil than my 30-06, but it has a bull barrel so it is also heavier. #1. However, wind drift at longer ranges, could be an issue with a lower ballistic coefficient bullet. As to case life; a competent handloader can get up to 10 reloads from brass handled properly. (25 at 4000) 8.5 But I can tell you from much personal experience there is no comparison to a 338 win mag hitting large game vs a 7mm rem mag. Primer Size and Bullet Diameter Chart Cartridge Bullet Dia. The 7mm Remington Magnum rifle cartridge was introduced as a commercially available round in 1962, along with the new Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle.It is a member of the belted magnum family that is directly derived from the venerable .375 H&H Magnum. by just 0.024 inches to create its .300 Win. regards Snag. If you choose to go with a 140 gr round, you can load the Remington CLUB round which will put a 150gr .30-06 … On most of those occasions I was handed a .30-06 or a .300 magnum, and every time it performed just as well as any 7mm I could have used. If you compare 7mm and .30 cal. cartridges of similar capacity, driving bullets of comparable sectional densities and ballistic coefficients, it requires about 30 percent more recoil to match the trajectory of a 7mm with a .30. The .270 Winchester vs. 7mm Rem Mag: Recoil Using the 150-grain bullet as a model, in a 7-pound rifle, the .270 Winchester produces about 13 foot pounds of recoil, which is not much. But I just dont know if I am that hip on the .30 cal bullet for antelope and the 7mm rem Mag would pack a good punch for both distance and energy especially at the 500 yard mark if need be. These are just a few. The math works out that this gun will produce a five-inch flatter trajectory over my 7mm Rem. I would summarize thusly. The 7mm Rem Mag is essentially a headache free cartridge, a joy to shoot, a spectacular killer. Yahoo Answers is shutting down on May 4th, 2021 (Eastern Time) and beginning April 20th, 2021 (Eastern Time) the Yahoo Answers … I keep the 7mm loaded with ammo above 150 grains and no ballistic tips to avoid blowups but that's just my own preference. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, If SD was important than we would shoot .22 cal spears. 3rd installment in my caliber vs caliber series. The advantage the 7mm has is comparing a 160 grain .284 with a 165 grain .308; the 7mm is going to have a better ballistic coefficient and better sectional density,which can effect flight and terminal ballistics. by increasing bullet diameter by a mere 0.020 inches, Winchester widened the .284-inch bullet atop the 7mm Rem. Just so you know (and unrelated to this article), the 25-06 is a 25-caliber bullet in a 30-06 case. Mag. Just wanted to start a war. from Federal costs $1.95 per round for a box of 20 while the .30-06 is only $1.30 per round for 20. They are essentially the same case just necked to different calibers. 7x64 Brenneke is very comparable to 30-06, and there are several 7mm cartridges in the magnum class that are more … Thanks for watching, don't forge to subscribe. The 7mm Rem Mag really loads out nearly exactly as a 30-06,might have a little more powder in a few loads-just depends on the powder. The 7mm Rem Magis a better caliber that offers a lot of bullet weights and types. Ballistically (at least to 300 yards or so) the 30-06 in a comparable bullet weight is very similar. … If you feel you must have a magnum rifle, the 7mm Remington Magnum is the cartridge for you. The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a newcomer contrasted with the 7mm-08 Remington, with it being presented in 2008.The distinction among this and the Remington is that it has less body decrease and a littler size, with it being shorter and having a 30-degree shoulder.. Just as Remington stole the thunder of the .264 Win. The cheapest 7mm Rem. Both calibers are popular, but Federal lists 35 varieties of .30-06 and only 22 kinds of 7mm Rem. That is a gain of 300 fps and is significant in the 130 -140 grain size. This resulted in people confusing it with the 7 mm Remington Magnum , and Remington changed the name back to .280 in 1981. I have my my .30-06 set up as more of a general purpose and close range rifle for overseas whereas my 7mm rem mag is solely a longer range rifle. The power shown by the reaction effect on the animal when hit by the 338 win mag far overcomes the effect of one getting hit with a 7mm rem mag. Mag. Mag. Ten more grains of RL-33 were required to gain 4 fps of velocity over RL-23, … More mass per caliber is generally better, but bigger caliber is better all else being equal and close on S.D. 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag? Let’s compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. So fellas whats your advice. Primer Size 10.3x60mm Rimmed Swiss ... Magnum .308 LRM 30-06 Springfield .308 LR 30-223 Remington .308 SR 30-284 Winchester .308 LR ... 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum .284 LRM 7mm STW .284 LRM 7mm TCU (7mm-223) .284 SR 7mm Weatherby Magnum The 7mm Rem Mag has a bit more recoil than a 30-06 I think. In fact, the 7mm Rem Mag is the same size bullet as what we know as the 280 Rem and 284 Win, which are both actually .284”. Remington renamed the cartridge in late 1978 to 7mm-06 Remington but just before the end of the year they renamed it again calling it the 7 mm Express in an attempt to increase sales. I have yet to have a case separation in my Browning 7mm rem mag. Reloder 33’s burn rate is a bit too slow for general use in the 7mm Remington Magnum, but it fired Speer 175-grain Grand Slam bullets faster than other powders and gave the smallest group. I have two 7mm rem mags--a #1 and an A-bolt--and they feel, to me, just like an -06. The 7mm Rem Mag has the best ballistics. Encore barrel or seperate gun? The cost of 7MM Ultra Mag ammo, which is a really hot round is costly. Ammo availability and cost go to the .30-06 as well. Granted, the 7mm at 2943 FPS has more "energy" than the .25-06 at 2922 FPs, but the most important factor is to know your own limitations, and to put the bullet where it counts! The greater drop with other calibers isn't a big deal with range finders and ballistic scope turrets. Wisely, Winchester stuck with the .30-06 overall-length so its new belted magnum—unlike Weatherby’s full-magnum-length 300—could be chambered in inexpensive … What Are The Finer Points In Reloading the 7mm Rem Mag. In short, like the 7mm Rem Mag, the .300 Win Mag is an excellent cartridge that packs more performance than the .30-06 Springfield into a comparably sized package. will supersede the velocities of the .30-06 Springfield ; though the ’06 can use heavier bullets, the 7mm of equal weight will offer a better Sectional Density. For instance in a 7mm and 30-06 with the same weight and comparable construction the 30-06 ranked higher. #2. 280 Remington 30/06 Springfield 8mm Mauser 338/06 A Square 35 Whelen Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/-257 Weatherby 264 Win Mag 270 weatherby Mag 7mm Remington Mag 7mm Weatherby Mag 7 STW 7mm Remington Ultra Mag 300 H & H 300 Winchester Mag 300 Weatherby Mag 300 RUM 303 Brit 8mm Remington Mag 338 Winchester Mag The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .243 Winchester vs .30-06 Springfield ammo rounds. Would the encore barrel be good enough for 500 yard and in shooting? The 7mm Rem Mag loaded with the Remington 175 gr PSPCL will go faster, flatter and hit harder than most 180 gr .30-06 loads but it is a few more dollars. Sectional density was not mentioned as by itself is not a factor. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473″ case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34″ or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. I've had the chance to shoot both plenty. The 7mm Rem Mag has a ton of potential other than merely being a hard-hitter if you handload the cartridge. The 7mm Remington Magnum is a versatile cartridge that’s well-served by slow burning powders. If you realistically anticipate a high percentage of long shots at large game and don't mind carrying a relatively long and heavy rifle, the 7mm Rem. While the Remington has more powder limit, the Creedmoor has better greatest normal weight. The area where the 7mm really shines is it's flat trajectory in most factory loadings. I hunt with a Howa .30-06 and my dad hunts with a Remington 700 7mm Rem Mag. is a good choice. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM..284 bullets to fit the bores of all 7mm cartridges come in a wide variety of shapes and weights from 100 grains to 180 grains—adequate for everything from coyotes to big bears. Just so happens the 280 Rem is a 7mm bullet in a modified 30-06 cartridge. Mag. The 7mm Mag has been around for over fifty years and is still very popular today as an all-purpose big game killer. But this doesn't even begin to make a difference until you're getting out there past 300 yards, more like 500. With comparable bullet weights, the 7mm Mag. The .25-06 Remington took a white tail buck with one shot at 25 yards. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly not the most powerful 7mm. 7x57 Mauser and 7mm08, for instance, are about as well balanced as it gets for game the size of deer, and 280 Remington, AKA 7mm Express, is based on the 30-06 case. 7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag : Cartridge Sizes What other calibers share the 30-06 case? The 7mm Remington Magnum drives the wide variety of 7mm bullets, from 120 to 175 grains, at respectable velocities. The 7MM Remington Magnum took a white tail buck with one shot at 22 yards.